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Bryan Melville's avatar

Centrism has led to fascism.

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Carl Van Ness's avatar

The claim that the left controls the party's messaging is straight out of the GOP playbook. It is what the GOP has been saying for decades. It is, of course, an outrageous lie. But lies are political currency these days. We leftists know it's a lie and Klein et al. know it's a lie, but to many Democratic voters looking for answers to the disaster of 2024 it sounds like something that might be true. We will hear this lie repeatedly from now through the 2028 Democratic primary, so get ready for a brawl.

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Joe Wrote's avatar

Great point. The 'radical left Democrats' is literally a Republican talking point.

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Kav's avatar

thanks Joe. I don't know what the answer is but I am concerned that the extreme left wing platform is what drove main stream democrats away in 2024 and I fear that could happen again..

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Joe Wrote's avatar

Thanks! I'd love to hear more about your opinion. What parts of the platform do you think lost votes?

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Kav's avatar

Interesting question. My biggest concern is that Democrats are so fearful of doing the wrong thing that they end up being too passive. The best example for me is with the southern border. During the Biden administration the news was pretty relentless about the number of people crossing the border every day. Everyone knew this was a serious problem but no one wanted to deal with it. Democrats were not taking a position because they were fearful they would be seen as heartless. But that failure to do anything allowed the problem to get increasingly worse and allowed MAGA brilliantly to take the issue and convince a substantial percentage of middle of the road Democrats that allowing all of those people to cross over ultimately resulted in taxpayer money being used to support those people and also resulted in lower wages for everyone because those people were taking jobs.

Whether that is true is irrelevant, because if middle of the road Democrats think it is true than it does not matter.

Finally there was a bill produced by the Democrats to address the issue but Trump prevented it from being passed. If it had passed I believe the election could have turned out differently. we will never know. Too little too late.

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trisha-lynn's avatar

This warning should be everywhere, “…centrist liberalism has nowhere else to go: it has nothing else to offer America, not even its once-intriguing promise of blocking Republican fascism from taking power.”

Also, EK’s suggestion to run pro-forced birthers was enraging.

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Joe Wrote's avatar

I'm somewhat glad he said it. Even his typical listeners were shocked. Not just because it's immoral, but because it's terrible political advice.

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Vik's avatar

Thank you, Joe. This was amazing and sorely needed.

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Joe Wrote's avatar

❤️

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Out of a Sudden's avatar

Something I wrote last spring, the last time Democrats spoke seriously -- sorry, performatively -- about ousting Schumer from leadership.

https://open.substack.com/pub/ralphbon/p/a-schumer-moment-you-may-have-forgotten?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=3kh3qn

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Joe Wrote's avatar

I remember during the first shutdown fight, when a reporter asked Jeffries if Schumer should resign. He said, "Next question."

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Out of a Sudden's avatar

Talk about rebounding from COVID! Thanks, Joe.

As I've long said, "Chuck Schumer" is not a name, it's an imperative.

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Joe Wrote's avatar

I'm glad you liked it!

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OblivionNecroninja's avatar

Okay, so how does one oust these clowns from their entrenched control of the democratic party?

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