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Andrei Petrovitch's avatar

I think people believe the more cops = less crime fallacy is because they associate police presence with safety (eg, deterrence). And if you believe in the theories of crime that argue crime is a moral and/or opportunistic choice, then I get why people would think this.

I think this is why the broken windows model, flaws and all, became so popular; people need to perceive there is no disorder in order to believe it’s not happening.

Not saying it’s right, but I understand.

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Stuart Pitman's avatar

What is overlooked by having massive police forces, or those with qualified immunity, and the 'thin blue line' code of silence, is that the police themselves become a criminal gang. One that is taught 'warrior cop' mentality, that there is us, and everyone else we must intimidate and control. Corruption, rape, murder, domestic violence, all common issues. As are 'special units' some that dote on violence and literally put notches on their guns.

This is rooted in how the US police forces were constituted first from the state constitutions that required males between 14 and 50 to own a firearm and participate in slave patrols, then after reconstruction the KKK and the police were often the same, as the lyrics say 'some of those who work forces are the same who burn crosses.'

More recently it is the outright militarization of US police forces as a domestic pacification and occupation force as many came out of the GWOT as did the equipment, tactics, and intelligence methods against our own population.

Crime often comes from the failure of civil society to provide; it is lower in societies that have lower levels of inequality and higher levels of happiness. What provides those are no mystery, but doing so in the US is against the individualistic and capitalistic values that keep being perpetuated as national myth, when in reality all progress was a function of social investment and communitarianism.

Non police response to social needs work, one of the first in the country was the Eugene Oregon CAHOOTS program created in 1989, it became a model for other cities to craft their own, Portland Oregon has its Street Response program. Olympia, Phoenix, Albuquerque, and Denver all created programs inspired by it. Mental health, social worker, medic led units to deal with issues that often police respond poorly to when confronted with someone in crisis, or a need they are unprepared to fulfill.

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