Every article like this should mention that we have many more democratic state governors and governments than 2016. Trump's ability to enact horrifying plans like those laid out here is contingent on California, Illinois, Massachusetts, etc. letting him. It would create a crisis of federalism if these states coordinated and/or actively disrupted federal agents and actions - that crisis is worth creating. We are only helplessly at the whims of Trump and his court if our leaders choose to be.
That is a fantastic point. I just looked and they have 50% more this time around. Especially on immigration, that's a great opportunity to gum up the works.
I feel like you're being unnecessarily harsh on syphilis here, isn't it much more likely our current elected officials have other STIs? Or is there a resurgence of syphilis like there is of gonorrhea? I feel like tertiary syphilis is an excuse these assholes don't have. Certainly the folks writing the order in 1798 may have had it though.
This post put me in a great mood, I would love to see Trump pull off such a critical mass deportation! Alas, I’m highly skeptical of his administration’s ability to end birthright citizenship, which should have ended decades back. Realistically, Trump will end the open borders and probably deport some known criminals, otherwise we are sadly stuck with the illegals who will drive down our wages, stress our social services, and dilute our culture until the dems get back in power and legalize all of them. Hopefully we can at least leverage immigrants social conservatism to punish all the progressives for importing this unchecked tidal wave.
You are right about the guys in limousines being the true enemy, but MAGA knows this. Hence the fixation on ending “globalism” (neoliberal capitalism). A major factor of this is the limousine guys importing mass migration to first world countries specifically to drive down wages via surge in labor supply, and make it harder to unionize via language and cultural barriers. And because you arrogant, holier than thou academic progressives hate the local working class far more than the rich, you double down on this obviously neoliberal plan , not out of love for “international proletariat” but out of sheer spite.
An indisputable part of making collective bargaining work in the USA is a total stop of immigration, period.
I loved you in The Rifleman, but you are woefully misinformed about Trump and his supporters. Why would billionaires end neoliberal economic policies that benefit them? That would be, to quote Mr. Spock, illogical. In fact, your whole comment is consistently illogical.
Billionaires probably won’t end those policies. That’s what my comment was saying. Trump and his voters are entirely different from each other. This is why I was pessimistic about Trump doing all the things this article states he will. That would be a best case scenario for stopping mass migration, which the wealthy benefit from. So why would all the things in the article happen then?
My comment isn’t irrational, you just either don’t understand it, or it doesn’t conform to your narrative.
Immigrants documented and undocumented do not drive down wage-growth or make it harder to unionize—capitalism and greedy CEO’s do. Of course, CEO’s will offshore jobs and hire undocumented workers to pay them less but that’s the fault of CEO’s and capitalists not undocumented immigrants who are fleeing war, violence and poverty. Plus if what the above article says turns out to be what happens that will be such a wreck in this country. Also there are no open borders—that’s a right-wing myth. We have a border and Biden deported more people than Trump did as a percentage and raw number. There is no real border crisis, the only crisis is large numbers of Latin American peoples are fleeing war and poverty and violence and climate change which is a result of decades of US violence and meddling in their countries’ affairs. Birthright citizenship has been interpreted to mean that undocumented immigrants kids are citizens as well (though I wouldn’t be surprised if SCOTUS overturns it). Also the local working class has far more in common with foreign workers than they do the CEO’s, the proletariat is international. Also mass deportation while against most neo-liberals ideas doesn’t fundamentally harm neoliberalism and therefore capitalism itself (by the way the problem isn’t just neoliberalism, but capitalism as a whole).
Holy shit your first sentence contradicts itself right off the bat. “Immigrants down drive down wage growth, but corporations hire them and pay them less.” How do you manage such double think? That’s insane.
There is absolutely NO international proletariat, this is a Marxist myth disproven many years ago. People unite over shared heritage, culture, language etc, not “working for someone else.” The Marxist movements that succeeded relied on nationalism (patriotism) to unite people. Mass migration which is 100% real and not a myth undermines cultural unity and ability to organize. Biden only deported towards the end of his term when he finally came to terms with his lax border policies being a political loser. He should have kept Trump policies in place without exception and still deported aggressively. This is 100% a real crisis and I will not be lied to by progressives who despise the country I love and the people who live here.
Immigrants don’t drive down wage growth, wage growth is lessened by corporations and billionaires who by choice pay workers less. Even if no immigrant workers existed, wages are stagnating because of rampant deregulation, accelerating CEO wages, and the destruction of unions. Also most undocumented workers work in industries and jobs that Americans don’t want to do or are less inclined to do like farm work, seasonal food picking, manual labor, construction, etc. When I say corporations I’m referring to any business whether small or large. I don’t despise Americans as an American myself but I understand that national borders are just political lines and international relationships between people are fostered all the time. World history is a concept which has existed for centuries, and yes there IS an international proletariat, particularly as the world has become increasingly globalized over the past few decades. Biden deported throughout his term though definitely ramped up after the end of the COVID-19 emergency in 22. There are and have not been any open borders in recent American history. Also the American “middle class” has been destabilized and eradicated over the past 50 years due to evolutions in American capitalism, as not just neoliberalism but capitalism itself is the problem.
Corporations are able to get away with paying people less because they flood the market with labor via immigration, especially the illegal kind. Otherwise they would be forced to deal with greater working bargaining power via decreased supply. I do t know why this incredibly basic supply and demand issue is so hard for you. I think you do know, and just want to spite American labor with immigrants because you somehow view CIA coups decades back in South America as the laborers fault, and you’re too weak to punish the cia so you take it out on workers instead.
"My comment isn’t irrational, you just either don’t understand it, or it doesn’t conform to your narrative."
I'm so tired of motherfuckers misquoting what I wrote. I said you were misinformed and illogical. I think you're totally rational, dude. But I love that since MY comment doesn't conform to your narrative I must have misunderstood.
Let me clarify. You don't know shit from Shinola about MAGA or Trump voters. You clearly don't know shit about Trump. There is no concerted effort to "import mass migration." You New World Order types are 70 years behind the times. BTW, are you a libertarian?
The only good insult you had in there was calling me a libertarian lmfao. Always stings but can’t complain because most of the libertarians you encounter probably look like me. I know many Trump voters from personal experience, no idea how you can conclude otherwise . I’d rather look at what Trump actually says and his supporters say to me than filter that through progressive journalism.
The whole point of this post was “Trump will solve mass migration” and my reply was basically “you’ve described a best case scenario but I’m not that optimistic.”
Fair enough. I was more cross about not quoting me right. I'm dealing with MAGA from a larger statistical population. I don't believe ANYTHING The Donnie says. He will flip flop more than a striped bass after you reel it in.
There is no reason to trust any politician, Donald Trump is no exception. Trumps flip flopping is populist banter, you have to get the “vibe” to predict what he’ll do, I mean he walked back abortion bans pretty hard, most people think that’s good. We didn’t actually literally need a giant wall just walls or fences in specific areas with too many illegal crossings.
That show was great but don’t call me I rifleman I don’t wanna get ATF’d lol.
Every article like this should mention that we have many more democratic state governors and governments than 2016. Trump's ability to enact horrifying plans like those laid out here is contingent on California, Illinois, Massachusetts, etc. letting him. It would create a crisis of federalism if these states coordinated and/or actively disrupted federal agents and actions - that crisis is worth creating. We are only helplessly at the whims of Trump and his court if our leaders choose to be.
That is a fantastic point. I just looked and they have 50% more this time around. Especially on immigration, that's a great opportunity to gum up the works.
I feel like you're being unnecessarily harsh on syphilis here, isn't it much more likely our current elected officials have other STIs? Or is there a resurgence of syphilis like there is of gonorrhea? I feel like tertiary syphilis is an excuse these assholes don't have. Certainly the folks writing the order in 1798 may have had it though.
lol you're right. I apologize to syphilis for getting caught in my crossfire.
Testing for syphilis is like testing cognitive ability. Unnecessary for elected officials.
I'm operating from the assumption that at least one type of herpes is required to run for any public office.
I heard he wants to overturn the Magna Carta.
He just formally ended the Social Contract.
It was Mandate Destiny for him to do so. Also, I heard Gingrich's Contract For America has been deemed null and void.
This post put me in a great mood, I would love to see Trump pull off such a critical mass deportation! Alas, I’m highly skeptical of his administration’s ability to end birthright citizenship, which should have ended decades back. Realistically, Trump will end the open borders and probably deport some known criminals, otherwise we are sadly stuck with the illegals who will drive down our wages, stress our social services, and dilute our culture until the dems get back in power and legalize all of them. Hopefully we can at least leverage immigrants social conservatism to punish all the progressives for importing this unchecked tidal wave.
You are right about the guys in limousines being the true enemy, but MAGA knows this. Hence the fixation on ending “globalism” (neoliberal capitalism). A major factor of this is the limousine guys importing mass migration to first world countries specifically to drive down wages via surge in labor supply, and make it harder to unionize via language and cultural barriers. And because you arrogant, holier than thou academic progressives hate the local working class far more than the rich, you double down on this obviously neoliberal plan , not out of love for “international proletariat” but out of sheer spite.
An indisputable part of making collective bargaining work in the USA is a total stop of immigration, period.
If you think MAGA is against neoliberal capitalism, I've got a fully-finished Mexican border wall to sell you.
MAGA meaning the overall movement, not the leadership lol.
Also, mass deportation is fundamentally anti neoliberalism . That’s why we want it.
I loved you in The Rifleman, but you are woefully misinformed about Trump and his supporters. Why would billionaires end neoliberal economic policies that benefit them? That would be, to quote Mr. Spock, illogical. In fact, your whole comment is consistently illogical.
Billionaires probably won’t end those policies. That’s what my comment was saying. Trump and his voters are entirely different from each other. This is why I was pessimistic about Trump doing all the things this article states he will. That would be a best case scenario for stopping mass migration, which the wealthy benefit from. So why would all the things in the article happen then?
My comment isn’t irrational, you just either don’t understand it, or it doesn’t conform to your narrative.
Immigrants documented and undocumented do not drive down wage-growth or make it harder to unionize—capitalism and greedy CEO’s do. Of course, CEO’s will offshore jobs and hire undocumented workers to pay them less but that’s the fault of CEO’s and capitalists not undocumented immigrants who are fleeing war, violence and poverty. Plus if what the above article says turns out to be what happens that will be such a wreck in this country. Also there are no open borders—that’s a right-wing myth. We have a border and Biden deported more people than Trump did as a percentage and raw number. There is no real border crisis, the only crisis is large numbers of Latin American peoples are fleeing war and poverty and violence and climate change which is a result of decades of US violence and meddling in their countries’ affairs. Birthright citizenship has been interpreted to mean that undocumented immigrants kids are citizens as well (though I wouldn’t be surprised if SCOTUS overturns it). Also the local working class has far more in common with foreign workers than they do the CEO’s, the proletariat is international. Also mass deportation while against most neo-liberals ideas doesn’t fundamentally harm neoliberalism and therefore capitalism itself (by the way the problem isn’t just neoliberalism, but capitalism as a whole).
Holy shit your first sentence contradicts itself right off the bat. “Immigrants down drive down wage growth, but corporations hire them and pay them less.” How do you manage such double think? That’s insane.
There is absolutely NO international proletariat, this is a Marxist myth disproven many years ago. People unite over shared heritage, culture, language etc, not “working for someone else.” The Marxist movements that succeeded relied on nationalism (patriotism) to unite people. Mass migration which is 100% real and not a myth undermines cultural unity and ability to organize. Biden only deported towards the end of his term when he finally came to terms with his lax border policies being a political loser. He should have kept Trump policies in place without exception and still deported aggressively. This is 100% a real crisis and I will not be lied to by progressives who despise the country I love and the people who live here.
Unions + strict borders + guns = American middle class. Fuck everyone else.
Immigrants don’t drive down wage growth, wage growth is lessened by corporations and billionaires who by choice pay workers less. Even if no immigrant workers existed, wages are stagnating because of rampant deregulation, accelerating CEO wages, and the destruction of unions. Also most undocumented workers work in industries and jobs that Americans don’t want to do or are less inclined to do like farm work, seasonal food picking, manual labor, construction, etc. When I say corporations I’m referring to any business whether small or large. I don’t despise Americans as an American myself but I understand that national borders are just political lines and international relationships between people are fostered all the time. World history is a concept which has existed for centuries, and yes there IS an international proletariat, particularly as the world has become increasingly globalized over the past few decades. Biden deported throughout his term though definitely ramped up after the end of the COVID-19 emergency in 22. There are and have not been any open borders in recent American history. Also the American “middle class” has been destabilized and eradicated over the past 50 years due to evolutions in American capitalism, as not just neoliberalism but capitalism itself is the problem.
Corporations are able to get away with paying people less because they flood the market with labor via immigration, especially the illegal kind. Otherwise they would be forced to deal with greater working bargaining power via decreased supply. I do t know why this incredibly basic supply and demand issue is so hard for you. I think you do know, and just want to spite American labor with immigrants because you somehow view CIA coups decades back in South America as the laborers fault, and you’re too weak to punish the cia so you take it out on workers instead.
"My comment isn’t irrational, you just either don’t understand it, or it doesn’t conform to your narrative."
I'm so tired of motherfuckers misquoting what I wrote. I said you were misinformed and illogical. I think you're totally rational, dude. But I love that since MY comment doesn't conform to your narrative I must have misunderstood.
Let me clarify. You don't know shit from Shinola about MAGA or Trump voters. You clearly don't know shit about Trump. There is no concerted effort to "import mass migration." You New World Order types are 70 years behind the times. BTW, are you a libertarian?
The only good insult you had in there was calling me a libertarian lmfao. Always stings but can’t complain because most of the libertarians you encounter probably look like me. I know many Trump voters from personal experience, no idea how you can conclude otherwise . I’d rather look at what Trump actually says and his supporters say to me than filter that through progressive journalism.
The whole point of this post was “Trump will solve mass migration” and my reply was basically “you’ve described a best case scenario but I’m not that optimistic.”
Fair enough. I was more cross about not quoting me right. I'm dealing with MAGA from a larger statistical population. I don't believe ANYTHING The Donnie says. He will flip flop more than a striped bass after you reel it in.
Good luck to you Rifleman.
There is no reason to trust any politician, Donald Trump is no exception. Trumps flip flopping is populist banter, you have to get the “vibe” to predict what he’ll do, I mean he walked back abortion bans pretty hard, most people think that’s good. We didn’t actually literally need a giant wall just walls or fences in specific areas with too many illegal crossings.
That show was great but don’t call me I rifleman I don’t wanna get ATF’d lol.
The very definition of conservative! Wanting to return to a previous time.