I think that speaks as a reason why a conviction is not necessary for disqualification. Many (maybe most) Confederates weren't tried, but they were disqualified from holding office.
Slight misunderstanding as to “party politics.” The GOP are just as threatened by a Trump win. Both parties need the status quo maintained. Any outside party win is a threat.
I think we'll have to disagree here, then. But I should note, the CO case was brought by Republicans, so I don't think it can be simplified as party politics. Just my thought.
Do you really want the government to decide who gets on the ballot? Have you not witnessed enough state sponsored censorship and control over the past few years (or decades) to understand the ramifications of government arbitration of the truth? And what have you to say of the two-party stronghold on ballot placement or primary eligibility? Do you really think either party would give up it's electoral advantages without a fight?
It's not so much what I "want," but what I believe to be legal. I didn't want Trump on the ballot in 2016 or 2020 because I despise his politics, but I never stated I wanted him removed because that wouldn't be fair.
In 2024 however, he very clearly (in my mind) breached the law and should be held accountable.
The list of politicians (and other government officials) who need to be held accountable for breaking the law is so long, only a handful currently in government would be eligible to hold any office let alone president. Not defending him, but curious that this accountability begins and ends with Trump and Biden's crimes get a pass? If we're going to do this, let's do it fair and square and offer the American voters a clean slate.
I don't think Biden's crimes should get a pass. I think he should be impeached and tried for many of the immoral and criminal things he's done.
But I don't think we should give one powerful politician (Trump) a pass just because other powerful individuals get a pass. In fact, I think if we want to hold the powerful to account, we need to start wherever we can.
The funny part about saying Trump wasn't convicted of "insurrection", well, neither was Jefferson Davis.
I think that speaks as a reason why a conviction is not necessary for disqualification. Many (maybe most) Confederates weren't tried, but they were disqualified from holding office.
He needs to be removed. Period.
Insurrectionists off the ballot.
I 100% agree.
Congress was unequivocal in its findings. Trump clearly incited an insurrection! We are going to beat back this scourge!
Slight misunderstanding as to “party politics.” The GOP are just as threatened by a Trump win. Both parties need the status quo maintained. Any outside party win is a threat.
Ah I see your point. Yea, I think that's fair.
Yes! Totally but that’s not what this is. Singling out Trump to me without equal adherence to the law is party politics at its finest.
I think we'll have to disagree here, then. But I should note, the CO case was brought by Republicans, so I don't think it can be simplified as party politics. Just my thought.
Do you really want the government to decide who gets on the ballot? Have you not witnessed enough state sponsored censorship and control over the past few years (or decades) to understand the ramifications of government arbitration of the truth? And what have you to say of the two-party stronghold on ballot placement or primary eligibility? Do you really think either party would give up it's electoral advantages without a fight?
It's not so much what I "want," but what I believe to be legal. I didn't want Trump on the ballot in 2016 or 2020 because I despise his politics, but I never stated I wanted him removed because that wouldn't be fair.
In 2024 however, he very clearly (in my mind) breached the law and should be held accountable.
The list of politicians (and other government officials) who need to be held accountable for breaking the law is so long, only a handful currently in government would be eligible to hold any office let alone president. Not defending him, but curious that this accountability begins and ends with Trump and Biden's crimes get a pass? If we're going to do this, let's do it fair and square and offer the American voters a clean slate.
I don't think Biden's crimes should get a pass. I think he should be impeached and tried for many of the immoral and criminal things he's done.
But I don't think we should give one powerful politician (Trump) a pass just because other powerful individuals get a pass. In fact, I think if we want to hold the powerful to account, we need to start wherever we can.
Hey Michael! You're right. I went back, and it looks like I misread my source. Thanks for that.
I've added a correction.