Excellent reconstruction of the «crime scene». Since 1947, Israel and its thugs have striven to deceive the Palestinians and an international public opinion complicit in underhand maneuvers reflecting perfect complicity, aimed at creating a «state»rump devoid of any sovereignty and exposed to the permanent control and vindictiveness of a sovereign, extensible and dominating entity. Israel and its henchmen have worked tirelessly to present to the Palestinians, projects they could only refuse.
thus favouring this permanent status quo interspersed with intermittent raids and massacres as a prelude to a «final solution» consisting in the expulsion of local aborigines to deserts or other places of perdition, finally, for those who would have escaped the «insecticide» campaigns.
In addition to the pernicious and “malignant” character of the Zionist enterprise and “philosophy”, what I find most troubling and revolting is the entire submission and active complicity of the global West in this large-scale abuse,Not to mention, of course, the odious behavior of the Arab countries, monarchs and subordinate princes and their contribution to the burial of the Palestinian cause.
The global support for this genocide cannot be ignored. Israel isn't acting alone, it's only the perpetrator of a campaign that Western-Arab nations support.
PS: there was no crime scene in 1947 there was a war, and the Arab nations of Egypt Iraq Jordan Syria Lebanon attacked Israel. And lost that war, Please get your facts straight .
This truth has been true since 1948. Israel’s offers of “peace” through the decades have *never* been in good faith. Fortunately, Israel has chosen a path of self destruction since 10/7. Unfortunately, it will cost many more thousands of innocent lives. #FreePalestinians
You neglect to mention that Ben-Gurion also said this at the time of the writing of Israel's declaration of independence: "We accepted the UN Resolution, but the Arabs did not. They are preparing to make war on us. If we defeat them and capture western Galilee or territory on both sides of the road to Jerusalem, these areas will become part of the state. Why should we obligate ourselves to accept boundaries that in any case the Arabs don't accept?"
Personally, I think that, if the Palestinians would finally get their act together and stop threatening Israel, Israel should agree to establishment of a Palestinian state according to the UN partition borders. However, the Palestinians have shown no genuine inclination to do that after many decades, so why should Israel continue to have any hope that the Palestinians might eventually come around?
You forgot to mention Oct.7, 2 intifadas, and war didn’t “break out” in 1948, Israel was attacked. You are denying the relentless aggression against Israel.
The Oslo Accord was a process - Israel gives up land and the Palestinians give up terrorism, and it's done in a progressive way. Your Pals didn't take more than a few years to launch into massive terrorism to stop the peace process - first Hamas with suicide bombings and VBIED attacks, and in less than 8 years the Palestinian Authority (formerly PLO) launched into 138 suicide bombings of the second intifada, from within the Area A&B territories they were given. It was even worse when Israel gave the entire Gaza strip to the Palestinian Authority. Despite 40 billion dollars worth of aid given to the Palestinians since 1993, as a prize for getting into a peace process, the Palestinians have continued to use any territory given to them for terrorism infrastructure, and funnel development and aid money given to them into that terrorism infrastructure.
Their aggression, their goal of a genocide and ethnic cleansing for 7 million Israeli Jews, a goal you yourself support, is the only reason they don't have a state.
As usual, you lie. And as usual, your pro Palestinian propaganda is badly done, because it's so detached from reality. The only people to ever give the Palestinians land for a state are the Israelis. Jordan with the help of the UK conquered the West Bank in 1948, ethnically cleansed all the Jews from it, yet chose not to create a Palestinian state there at any point between 1948 and 1967. Similarly, Egypt chose to not create a Palestinian state in the Gaza strip, which it ruled between 1948 and 1967. Israel is the only entity to give land to the Palestinians, both West Bank areas A & B in the mid 1990s as part of the Oslo peace process, and the entire Gaza strip in 2005. However, Palestinians have no idea that a "land for peace" equation requires of them to be peaceful. The West Bank areas A & B became the bases from which 138 suicide bombings were launched against Israeli civilians during the Second Intifada 2001-2005. The Gaza strip was lost to a violent Hamas coup in less than two years in 2007, by the spineless and useless Palestinian Authority. It was turned into the totalitarian theocracy of Hamastan Gaza and a forward terrorism base for Iran, with 16 years of rocket, missile and mortar attacks on Israeli civilians (a war crime) from behind and beneath Palestinian civilians (a war crime).
This is the reality. What you sell is badly written, badly articulated propaganda. You're a shill for Hamas.
First thing, you don't know Hebrew and don't know the meaning of any Hebrew words. Anyone using "Hasbara" in an English sentence might as well be wearing a T-shirt saying "I'm an anti-Jewish racist", you putz.
Second thing, 7 million Arabs in Israel (2 million full Israeli Arab citizens), West Bank and Gaza beg to differ with your "cleaning the holy land from all Arabs" lie. Like Joe Mayal, you too are bad at facts, bad at reasoning, and make a very poor pro Hamas propagandist. If you're going to lie, do it more artfully and not in a way that comes across as so blatantly stupid.
Jews stole who's land? It wasn't Arab land since 1099, and Arab empires had it for 460 years from their invasion - that's it. It wasn't Palestinian land to steal, there was no Palestine.
There will never be a two state solution. People who think like that are either brainwashed by the news on mainstream media, or actually believe the garbage that comes out of the UN.
Christ even the left wing college professors have taken off their masks, and actively promote only a single state.
That's what the politicians in the west and the world want, they pretend. Its a mirage. They care not about Palestinians, or Israelis. In fact if the War stopped right his instant , all hostilities ceased, That would serve the UN's purpose, they could pat themselves on the back , claim some credit, pat themselves on the back again,and give long winded speeches about the world stepped back from the brink, man's inhumanity to man , must never happen again ect ect ect.. All the while preparing for the inevitable outbreak of hostilities or the next War.
Another factor that must be taken into account is if the world wants to pay for the reconstruction of Gaza.
After pumping untold billions into an area for seventy five years there has not been any kind of progress, does it really make sense to continue with his approach.
That's not what the Gazans want or what the Israeli's want, it wasnt before Oct 7th and it isnt after Oct 7th.
The inevitable outcome of this war,or wars, whenever it or they conclude, will be a one state solution.
It will be either an Israeli Jewish State or an Arab Islamist State .
You cant have Both , you can forget that idea, that fantasy.
Joe Mayal only believes in a one Islamist state solution with Jews treated as Hamas did on October 7 to rape, torture, murder and a genocide and ethnic cleaning. He’s an anti-Jewish racist fan of Hamas, and not someone who wants a two state peace.
Oh, so that’s why we are defending the psychopath Netanyahu. We don’t want the Palestinian’s to control their airspace! It all makes sense now. What a waste of humanity.
This is a great write up, and one that really helps remind people that this conflict isn't "peaceful Zionists vs. violent Palestinians." Likud has controlled Israel for the majority of the 21st century, and as you point out, it was founded by a terrorist.
Excellent reconstruction of the «crime scene». Since 1947, Israel and its thugs have striven to deceive the Palestinians and an international public opinion complicit in underhand maneuvers reflecting perfect complicity, aimed at creating a «state»rump devoid of any sovereignty and exposed to the permanent control and vindictiveness of a sovereign, extensible and dominating entity. Israel and its henchmen have worked tirelessly to present to the Palestinians, projects they could only refuse.
thus favouring this permanent status quo interspersed with intermittent raids and massacres as a prelude to a «final solution» consisting in the expulsion of local aborigines to deserts or other places of perdition, finally, for those who would have escaped the «insecticide» campaigns.
In addition to the pernicious and “malignant” character of the Zionist enterprise and “philosophy”, what I find most troubling and revolting is the entire submission and active complicity of the global West in this large-scale abuse,Not to mention, of course, the odious behavior of the Arab countries, monarchs and subordinate princes and their contribution to the burial of the Palestinian cause.
The global support for this genocide cannot be ignored. Israel isn't acting alone, it's only the perpetrator of a campaign that Western-Arab nations support.
And who are supporting Hamas?
Russia, Hungary, China?
Qatar, Muslim " organizations" throughout the world
PS: there was no crime scene in 1947 there was a war, and the Arab nations of Egypt Iraq Jordan Syria Lebanon attacked Israel. And lost that war, Please get your facts straight .
This truth has been true since 1948. Israel’s offers of “peace” through the decades have *never* been in good faith. Fortunately, Israel has chosen a path of self destruction since 10/7. Unfortunately, it will cost many more thousands of innocent lives. #FreePalestinians
I agree that this is the moment where Israel lost generational support. I don't think young Americans will ever forgive or forget this.
Why not? America has forgiven 9/11
Thank you deeply for this truth-telling that so many don’t see/deny.
You're welcome!
Thank you, Joe.
🙏
Sho 'nuf Billy Jeff. Your Herculean efforts are still treasured by the latest zionist junta. Bubba level sleaze is forever
You neglect to mention that Ben-Gurion also said this at the time of the writing of Israel's declaration of independence: "We accepted the UN Resolution, but the Arabs did not. They are preparing to make war on us. If we defeat them and capture western Galilee or territory on both sides of the road to Jerusalem, these areas will become part of the state. Why should we obligate ourselves to accept boundaries that in any case the Arabs don't accept?"
Personally, I think that, if the Palestinians would finally get their act together and stop threatening Israel, Israel should agree to establishment of a Palestinian state according to the UN partition borders. However, the Palestinians have shown no genuine inclination to do that after many decades, so why should Israel continue to have any hope that the Palestinians might eventually come around?
I thought the orange menace fixed all your problems
My problems?
You forgot to mention Oct.7, 2 intifadas, and war didn’t “break out” in 1948, Israel was attacked. You are denying the relentless aggression against Israel.
I think aggression is the wrong term, but that has nothing to do with whether or not Palestinians were offered statehood.
The Oslo Accord was a process - Israel gives up land and the Palestinians give up terrorism, and it's done in a progressive way. Your Pals didn't take more than a few years to launch into massive terrorism to stop the peace process - first Hamas with suicide bombings and VBIED attacks, and in less than 8 years the Palestinian Authority (formerly PLO) launched into 138 suicide bombings of the second intifada, from within the Area A&B territories they were given. It was even worse when Israel gave the entire Gaza strip to the Palestinian Authority. Despite 40 billion dollars worth of aid given to the Palestinians since 1993, as a prize for getting into a peace process, the Palestinians have continued to use any territory given to them for terrorism infrastructure, and funnel development and aid money given to them into that terrorism infrastructure.
Their aggression, their goal of a genocide and ethnic cleansing for 7 million Israeli Jews, a goal you yourself support, is the only reason they don't have a state.
As usual, you lie. And as usual, your pro Palestinian propaganda is badly done, because it's so detached from reality. The only people to ever give the Palestinians land for a state are the Israelis. Jordan with the help of the UK conquered the West Bank in 1948, ethnically cleansed all the Jews from it, yet chose not to create a Palestinian state there at any point between 1948 and 1967. Similarly, Egypt chose to not create a Palestinian state in the Gaza strip, which it ruled between 1948 and 1967. Israel is the only entity to give land to the Palestinians, both West Bank areas A & B in the mid 1990s as part of the Oslo peace process, and the entire Gaza strip in 2005. However, Palestinians have no idea that a "land for peace" equation requires of them to be peaceful. The West Bank areas A & B became the bases from which 138 suicide bombings were launched against Israeli civilians during the Second Intifada 2001-2005. The Gaza strip was lost to a violent Hamas coup in less than two years in 2007, by the spineless and useless Palestinian Authority. It was turned into the totalitarian theocracy of Hamastan Gaza and a forward terrorism base for Iran, with 16 years of rocket, missile and mortar attacks on Israeli civilians (a war crime) from behind and beneath Palestinian civilians (a war crime).
This is the reality. What you sell is badly written, badly articulated propaganda. You're a shill for Hamas.
Aw Craig
Please where did you get those numbers from? Did you just spout something off the top of your head.
Christ all mighty, before you make a statement like that THINK!
First thing, you don't know Hebrew and don't know the meaning of any Hebrew words. Anyone using "Hasbara" in an English sentence might as well be wearing a T-shirt saying "I'm an anti-Jewish racist", you putz.
Second thing, 7 million Arabs in Israel (2 million full Israeli Arab citizens), West Bank and Gaza beg to differ with your "cleaning the holy land from all Arabs" lie. Like Joe Mayal, you too are bad at facts, bad at reasoning, and make a very poor pro Hamas propagandist. If you're going to lie, do it more artfully and not in a way that comes across as so blatantly stupid.
Jews stole who's land? It wasn't Arab land since 1099, and Arab empires had it for 460 years from their invasion - that's it. It wasn't Palestinian land to steal, there was no Palestine.
https://substack.com/@arrrbee/note/c-50300516
How did the Jews in fact steal the land?
There will never be a two state solution. People who think like that are either brainwashed by the news on mainstream media, or actually believe the garbage that comes out of the UN.
Christ even the left wing college professors have taken off their masks, and actively promote only a single state.
That's what the politicians in the west and the world want, they pretend. Its a mirage. They care not about Palestinians, or Israelis. In fact if the War stopped right his instant , all hostilities ceased, That would serve the UN's purpose, they could pat themselves on the back , claim some credit, pat themselves on the back again,and give long winded speeches about the world stepped back from the brink, man's inhumanity to man , must never happen again ect ect ect.. All the while preparing for the inevitable outbreak of hostilities or the next War.
Another factor that must be taken into account is if the world wants to pay for the reconstruction of Gaza.
After pumping untold billions into an area for seventy five years there has not been any kind of progress, does it really make sense to continue with his approach.
That's not what the Gazans want or what the Israeli's want, it wasnt before Oct 7th and it isnt after Oct 7th.
The inevitable outcome of this war,or wars, whenever it or they conclude, will be a one state solution.
It will be either an Israeli Jewish State or an Arab Islamist State .
You cant have Both , you can forget that idea, that fantasy.
Joe Mayal only believes in a one Islamist state solution with Jews treated as Hamas did on October 7 to rape, torture, murder and a genocide and ethnic cleaning. He’s an anti-Jewish racist fan of Hamas, and not someone who wants a two state peace.
👏🏻 very well explained
Oh, so that’s why we are defending the psychopath Netanyahu. We don’t want the Palestinian’s to control their airspace! It all makes sense now. What a waste of humanity.
Sorry, thought the Orange Menace and his son-in law solved the ME problem?!
I'm so glad you mentioned Israelism — I've been trying to find a screening near me. Thanks for sharing that.
This is a great write up, and one that really helps remind people that this conflict isn't "peaceful Zionists vs. violent Palestinians." Likud has controlled Israel for the majority of the 21st century, and as you point out, it was founded by a terrorist.
You forgot Anwar Sadat? On purpose, or just an oversight? Was he assisnated by Israelis?
Rabin was followed by Shimon Peres himself. Why wasn't he able to obtain "peace?"