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CI Carlson's avatar

The trick is to get rid of the Democrats and replace them with a real, alternative, workers’ party.

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Joe Wrote's avatar

That would solve a lot, to say the least.

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juliet's avatar

That’s all you guys do

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juliet's avatar

This is stupid. Why not just replace the representatives in the party with people who aren’t corrupt. You guys are actively rooting for republicans who are horrifying and anti-democratic. Stop being such all or nothing thinkers and remember the goods we have. Reagan really sucked but guess what he wasn’t Franco or Mussolini. It’s really immature how the Left talks about Democrats. We can’t afford another four years of losses for the planet itself. The world IS doomed if we don’t do way more. Shit is real. And if you look at social democratic countries they still have ridiculously rich 1%ers. If you want a socialist utopia you will also want totalitarianism. I am for democracy, not fascism on either side. We can change Democrats while carefully not fucking them in building a third party or we can totally fuck over everyone’s lives by letting Republicans win. Stop this kind of insane hopefulness please.

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CI Carlson's avatar

“Reagan wasn’t Franco or Mussolini.” He was the pre-cursor to Trump, who IS Francolini. “You leftists musst sstop ssinking outsside ze box, and march vith the fascist-lite Dems, or vee vill sshame you ins ssocial media!”

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juliet's avatar

you’ll take no responsibility for the many many people with your lack of pragmatic thinking. No one is fascist lite among the democrats. They might be capitalistic and might be an organization that tries to wrangle people in a certain direction, but every single one was about to vote for Build Back Better except two and you guys acted as if that wasn’t true. Just because they actually listen to their conservative constituents when they’re in purple districts doesn’t mean someone like in a dark blue one won’t vote way more progressively. But they changed their opinions as the left gained power. YOU ARE abiding by fascist logic! Purist ideology has NOTHING to do with fascism. Black and white thinking has NOTHING to do with fascism. delusions of attaining power via a minority have ZERO to do with fascism. You guys are the people who have been shaming people to the point that they voted for Trump! You’re sooo irritatingly naive

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CI Carlson's avatar

I have no idea who “you guys” are, but I am muting you.

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juliet's avatar

What do you even have at stake? I’m on Medicaid with a disability

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juliet's avatar

Did you vote against Trump????

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thoughtsbyjae's avatar

Bad news is they take a lot of people with them before they fail.

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Joe Wrote's avatar

Very true. We can't just stand by and wait for them to collapse on their own.

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david kavanaugh's avatar

We can only hope

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Joe Wrote's avatar

Fingers crossed!

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Merlu's avatar

Sadly, history showed us the contrary. Many actual dictatorships are decades (if not centuries) old (Russia, North Korea, China, most of african countries) and show no sign of weakening in favor of a democratic system. The most likely issue is that Trump will find a pretext for a martial law and become virtually impossible to oust from the power.

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rosegarden's avatar

This is not true. Russia's current dictatorship is only two decades old and people have been pushing back more and more.

Most African states have not even existed for a full century, much less been dictatorships that long. There is reason to be hopeful and many ex-dictatorships like Ghana are pursuing the democratic path now.

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Merlu's avatar

1) Russia did not wait Putin to be a dictatorship. In fact, it has been a dictatorship during its whole existence. Putin’s popularity is still rising, even outside Russia (populists all over the world are backing him and their electoral score doesn’t seems to suffer from it), and he makes opposition to him increasingly difficult.

2) We can’t say that the colonial era was the golden age of democracy for african countries, and authoritarian regimes are still the norm on the continent.

3) The democracy is weakening even in traditionally democratic states.

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ymg's avatar

You had a choice between a twee response and a serious response and chose to give a twee response. Curious as to why? You fashion yourself as a serious person.

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Alexandria Martinez's avatar

13 years later and one world war for Hitler

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Jim Trainer's avatar

Good one, Little Brother! Thank you for your service.

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ymg's avatar

Hilarious. And yet you support Hamas which is the very definition of fascist. Curious as to why?

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Joe Wrote's avatar

You got me there!

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Scar Go Hiomlán's avatar

Hamas are not fascist but Israel sure the fuck is.

Suck chub ya fuckin loser.

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