Smith, Rampell, and Yggdrasil or whatever not only cannot be trusted by anyone on the left; they do the antics they do out of their class's fear that the left will escape their containment on the fringes and discover that it's a lot bigger than they want it to seem.
Their attempts to chain the Overton Window to the center-right get more desperate all the time, bc reality has a hacksaw and knows how to use it.
"Their attempts to chain the Overton Window to the center-right get more desperate all the time" — this is really well said, and a spot-on analysis of what they attempt to do.
I would like to add that in my view they have chained the Overton Window to the Far Right of the 'D' group.
I haven't felt the 'D' has been my representative for a long time. At least since they began chasing Reaganites into the robber baron era. Chasing the donor class. Even as the Republicans than the Democrats ran past the McGoverns always looking to the donors, tripping over their base even today.
by JA Drobnicki · 2000 — Barkun, Michael. "Conspiracy Theories as Stigmatized. Knowledge: The Basis ... Yggdrasil's WN Library: http://www.ddc.net/yggAndex
"Also in the 1980s, Bob Mathews, founder of The Order, studied and practiced a variant of Odinism. In 1983, nine men led by Mathews took a "blood oath" over a six-week-old girl to create The Order, which would go on to murder and rob.
The number nine was significant to Mathews, according to a book by Kevin Flynn and Gary Gerhardt, for religious reasons: Odin learned nine songs and hung for nine nights on Yggdrasill, the tree of knowledge; Heimdall, the watchman of the gods, had nine mothers; Thor stumbled nine steps before dying in his final battle.
Today, David Lane, a leading player in The Order and one of the murderers of a Jewish talk show host in Denver, writes prolifically of Odinism in a series of right-wing publications."
Yeah, I'll pass. But thanks for the heads-up; I knew about ONA and other Odinist- Asatru cults from their earlier attempts at recruiting in the metal scene (most of us laughed them off), but not this stuff.
"these centrists have discovered there’s a financial and professional gain to be had by telling their audience that everything is fine, American imperialism is good, and anyone who questions capitalist doctrine needs to cut back on the avocado toast."
Haha. Great line Joe. That's my daily breakfast. I'd really like us to forgo these tired names of tribal affiliation. Left, progressive, center, right, far right, etc. don't mean anything anymore. The majority of us are a la carte in our thinking these days. The far right may enjoy avocado toast too for all I know.
Usually not the case, but maybe you found a rare W. What issues are you talking about?
>Palestine, the Houthis, and Greedflation
Lol, lmao even. It's funny that you actually linked a Washington Post article that totally debunks your point. Did you not read past the headline?
"The greedflationists argue that something fishy is afoot because companies are not merely “passing along” their higher costs; their profit margins are expanding, too. But this is exactly what you’d expect when flush customers are buying more stuff and willing to pay whatever’s necessary to get what they want. Prices and profits rise."
Bottom line is, Greedflation is a mega-cope argument. Oh, the policies you like led to outcomes people didn't like? Must be those evil corporations cooking the books.
Let's start with the last one: even if companies increased their profits, that doesn't mean that increased profit margins drove the huge price increases. And that's what you can see
Next up, the Houthis. The entire proof here is that Biden misspoke in front of a podium. The only thing this proves is that you can still continue to live with a brain that has turned into mostly potato salad.
Finally, Israel. Here you're sort of right - the Israeli public is sick of being the most moral side of every conflict by far. And why not? It hasn't exactly worked out for them. Israel let Hamas do their own thing (open-air prison memes aside) and it resulted in the worst terrorist attack since 9/11. Truly insane stuff. If that happened to any other country, the response would be far worse. What's happening now is excessive wartime casualties, and a lack of care for civilians, but far from genocide. If the civilians don't like it, they can just accept the reality that exists and stop throwing their young members into the meat grinder in hopes of somehow getting back what they lost. This, uh, won't happen, but it would be nice if international groups that are supposedly sympathetic to these people would do a better job of getting them to see reason. Who knows, maybe it will even happen.
"The Left" is so superior to centrism that in 1991, my ancestral homeland of Macedonia, from which countless family and friends are from, voted to leave Yugoslavia, have an actual democracy, have private ownership, and begin to join the West.
Actually: I'd wager that since the transition to democracy, given that I don't have any family get massacred or tortured for expressing disapproval towards government policy, "the Left" failed my people. Maybe thats why you do so poorly there when it comes to elections. During the 2024 election, whilst I was at Ohrid, would you like to know who won? "Your Macedonia," with 45%. Meanwhile, even with almost half a century under Left-wing rule, would you like to know what the avowed Socialist party received?
Re : these centrists have discovered there’s a financial and professional gain to be had by telling their audience that everything is fine, American imperialism is good..."
Except for old Cold Warriors such as Niall Ferguson in ,"Colossus: The Rise and Fall of the American Empire," I don't see much centrist or right-wing punditry that asserts the current world situation is as you assert they feel, that "everything is fine," nor is there is much explicit invocation that US Imperialism , is "good," or w/o costs and negative consequences. But, I am the sort of geek that subscribes to https://www.foreignaffairs.com/ . Where articles framed this way strike me as the opposite of centrist complacency ,"The Next Global War : How Today’s Regional Conflicts Resemble the Ones That Produced World War II," which landed on their site this morning.
Re : Last week, President Biden vindicated the long-held leftist critique that the United States is overly and needlessly militaristic.
That isn't just a long-held leftist critique , but, one held by paleo-conservatives and libertarians on the right. I've made it a habit for yrs. to read The American Conservative , because it exposes me to arguments such as this https://www.theamericanconservative.com/the-american-origins-of-the-russo-ukrainian-war/ . I also check out books like this , from a libertarian think tank, whose authors build their arguments on the work of leftist anti-imperialist scholars such as William A. Williams and Gabriel Kolko, "In Search of Monsters to Destroy : The Folly of American Empire and the Paths to Peace."
The political office of the Left complements that of the Right. The one is to get us off our ass and fix the things that need fixing, sooner than later. The other is to put ideas to do that to a test of "wait a minute." (That role is vacant; we haven't had Blakean liberalism in some time now.) Unanimity of opinion seldom turns out well. Examples are left as an exercise to the reader.) History is littered with political positions that eventually prevailed beyond the day that they would otherwise have come by reason of addiction to the drug of righteous indignation. Ends cannot disregard means. Suit the means to the ends, not the other way around.
No. You would say that we live in the days of the McGoverns and who ever when this country's seemed to listen to the commons and think they needed to represent then. I mean either 'party'. Those were times, before Reagan, that we needed the ideas the populace was agitating for, but also the restraint of the preRove Congress. Those were times I could split my ticket nearly every election. Not since Reagan was that safe to do.
Post Nixon even, absolutely, and the ideal of a productive tension between was a fiction spun out of appearances like the Ron and Chip lovefest of divided government. Only on matters of war coupled with political self-interest rather than self sacrifice did we see bipartisanship. We got the Cold War in those 15 weeks beginning February 22, 1946, when the voters returned LBJ to office. Post 9/11. The Burkean conservative break to overhasty governance only works in regimes of stability managing mild change. It can't effectively function in times of tumult to carry out urgent repairs. Après moi and all that, since I'm getting on, but that doesn't mean I don't worry for my son's generation and that of my great nieces and nephews.
I whole heartedly agree. We haven't seen a 'deliberative body' in Congress in decades.
Now 'deliberative' is a sin, Republicans are so extreme they throw like minded extremists to the curb quarterly. "Off with their heads. We refuse to think about it."
And the Democrats only attack the ones that want to be 'deliberative' also. "We want to rubber stamp this spending bill, NO conditions or restrictions on how 'so-n-so' spends the money or the bombs!" "Off with their heads. We refuse to think about it."
Smith, Rampell, and Yggdrasil or whatever not only cannot be trusted by anyone on the left; they do the antics they do out of their class's fear that the left will escape their containment on the fringes and discover that it's a lot bigger than they want it to seem.
Their attempts to chain the Overton Window to the center-right get more desperate all the time, bc reality has a hacksaw and knows how to use it.
"Their attempts to chain the Overton Window to the center-right get more desperate all the time" — this is really well said, and a spot-on analysis of what they attempt to do.
I would like to add that in my view they have chained the Overton Window to the Far Right of the 'D' group.
I haven't felt the 'D' has been my representative for a long time. At least since they began chasing Reaganites into the robber baron era. Chasing the donor class. Even as the Republicans than the Democrats ran past the McGoverns always looking to the donors, tripping over their base even today.
Yggdrasil ? Haven't seen that in forever. Decades ago , scrolling through neo-fascist, white nationalist websites , found one entitled, "Yggdrasil." https://kallisti.blog/2021/01/09/yggdrasil-or-the-world-tree-and-white-supremacist-appropriation/ .
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by JA Drobnicki · 2000 — Barkun, Michael. "Conspiracy Theories as Stigmatized. Knowledge: The Basis ... Yggdrasil's WN Library: http://www.ddc.net/yggAndex
"Also in the 1980s, Bob Mathews, founder of The Order, studied and practiced a variant of Odinism. In 1983, nine men led by Mathews took a "blood oath" over a six-week-old girl to create The Order, which would go on to murder and rob.
The number nine was significant to Mathews, according to a book by Kevin Flynn and Gary Gerhardt, for religious reasons: Odin learned nine songs and hung for nine nights on Yggdrasill, the tree of knowledge; Heimdall, the watchman of the gods, had nine mothers; Thor stumbled nine steps before dying in his final battle.
Today, David Lane, a leading player in The Order and one of the murderers of a Jewish talk show host in Denver, writes prolifically of Odinism in a series of right-wing publications."
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/1998/new-brand-racist-odinist-religion-march
Be prepared to take multiple showers after perusing , Yggdrasil's WN Library , https://archive.org/details/WnLibrary/mode/2up .
Yeah, I'll pass. But thanks for the heads-up; I knew about ONA and other Odinist- Asatru cults from their earlier attempts at recruiting in the metal scene (most of us laughed them off), but not this stuff.
"these centrists have discovered there’s a financial and professional gain to be had by telling their audience that everything is fine, American imperialism is good, and anyone who questions capitalist doctrine needs to cut back on the avocado toast."
Haha. Great line Joe. That's my daily breakfast. I'd really like us to forgo these tired names of tribal affiliation. Left, progressive, center, right, far right, etc. don't mean anything anymore. The majority of us are a la carte in our thinking these days. The far right may enjoy avocado toast too for all I know.
lol Thanks Tina! I was fond of that as well.
Avocado toast is good, idk why it gets so much hate!
Because Popular equals populace equals commons and we know they don't want the common to get airs above their stations.
What the commons? They want a say? What nerve they have, go, go accuse them of 'Elitism' I say.
>the left was right
Usually not the case, but maybe you found a rare W. What issues are you talking about?
>Palestine, the Houthis, and Greedflation
Lol, lmao even. It's funny that you actually linked a Washington Post article that totally debunks your point. Did you not read past the headline?
"The greedflationists argue that something fishy is afoot because companies are not merely “passing along” their higher costs; their profit margins are expanding, too. But this is exactly what you’d expect when flush customers are buying more stuff and willing to pay whatever’s necessary to get what they want. Prices and profits rise."
Bottom line is, Greedflation is a mega-cope argument. Oh, the policies you like led to outcomes people didn't like? Must be those evil corporations cooking the books.
Let's start with the last one: even if companies increased their profits, that doesn't mean that increased profit margins drove the huge price increases. And that's what you can see
Next up, the Houthis. The entire proof here is that Biden misspoke in front of a podium. The only thing this proves is that you can still continue to live with a brain that has turned into mostly potato salad.
Finally, Israel. Here you're sort of right - the Israeli public is sick of being the most moral side of every conflict by far. And why not? It hasn't exactly worked out for them. Israel let Hamas do their own thing (open-air prison memes aside) and it resulted in the worst terrorist attack since 9/11. Truly insane stuff. If that happened to any other country, the response would be far worse. What's happening now is excessive wartime casualties, and a lack of care for civilians, but far from genocide. If the civilians don't like it, they can just accept the reality that exists and stop throwing their young members into the meat grinder in hopes of somehow getting back what they lost. This, uh, won't happen, but it would be nice if international groups that are supposedly sympathetic to these people would do a better job of getting them to see reason. Who knows, maybe it will even happen.
lol, thanks for reading.
My pleasure
"The Left" is so superior to centrism that in 1991, my ancestral homeland of Macedonia, from which countless family and friends are from, voted to leave Yugoslavia, have an actual democracy, have private ownership, and begin to join the West.
Actually: I'd wager that since the transition to democracy, given that I don't have any family get massacred or tortured for expressing disapproval towards government policy, "the Left" failed my people. Maybe thats why you do so poorly there when it comes to elections. During the 2024 election, whilst I was at Ohrid, would you like to know who won? "Your Macedonia," with 45%. Meanwhile, even with almost half a century under Left-wing rule, would you like to know what the avowed Socialist party received?
merely 7%.
Re : these centrists have discovered there’s a financial and professional gain to be had by telling their audience that everything is fine, American imperialism is good..."
Except for old Cold Warriors such as Niall Ferguson in ,"Colossus: The Rise and Fall of the American Empire," I don't see much centrist or right-wing punditry that asserts the current world situation is as you assert they feel, that "everything is fine," nor is there is much explicit invocation that US Imperialism , is "good," or w/o costs and negative consequences. But, I am the sort of geek that subscribes to https://www.foreignaffairs.com/ . Where articles framed this way strike me as the opposite of centrist complacency ,"The Next Global War : How Today’s Regional Conflicts Resemble the Ones That Produced World War II," which landed on their site this morning.
Re : Last week, President Biden vindicated the long-held leftist critique that the United States is overly and needlessly militaristic.
That isn't just a long-held leftist critique , but, one held by paleo-conservatives and libertarians on the right. I've made it a habit for yrs. to read The American Conservative , because it exposes me to arguments such as this https://www.theamericanconservative.com/the-american-origins-of-the-russo-ukrainian-war/ . I also check out books like this , from a libertarian think tank, whose authors build their arguments on the work of leftist anti-imperialist scholars such as William A. Williams and Gabriel Kolko, "In Search of Monsters to Destroy : The Folly of American Empire and the Paths to Peace."
https://www.independent.org/store/book.asp?id=140 .
The political office of the Left complements that of the Right. The one is to get us off our ass and fix the things that need fixing, sooner than later. The other is to put ideas to do that to a test of "wait a minute." (That role is vacant; we haven't had Blakean liberalism in some time now.) Unanimity of opinion seldom turns out well. Examples are left as an exercise to the reader.) History is littered with political positions that eventually prevailed beyond the day that they would otherwise have come by reason of addiction to the drug of righteous indignation. Ends cannot disregard means. Suit the means to the ends, not the other way around.
No. You would say that we live in the days of the McGoverns and who ever when this country's seemed to listen to the commons and think they needed to represent then. I mean either 'party'. Those were times, before Reagan, that we needed the ideas the populace was agitating for, but also the restraint of the preRove Congress. Those were times I could split my ticket nearly every election. Not since Reagan was that safe to do.
Post Nixon even, absolutely, and the ideal of a productive tension between was a fiction spun out of appearances like the Ron and Chip lovefest of divided government. Only on matters of war coupled with political self-interest rather than self sacrifice did we see bipartisanship. We got the Cold War in those 15 weeks beginning February 22, 1946, when the voters returned LBJ to office. Post 9/11. The Burkean conservative break to overhasty governance only works in regimes of stability managing mild change. It can't effectively function in times of tumult to carry out urgent repairs. Après moi and all that, since I'm getting on, but that doesn't mean I don't worry for my son's generation and that of my great nieces and nephews.
I whole heartedly agree. We haven't seen a 'deliberative body' in Congress in decades.
Now 'deliberative' is a sin, Republicans are so extreme they throw like minded extremists to the curb quarterly. "Off with their heads. We refuse to think about it."
And the Democrats only attack the ones that want to be 'deliberative' also. "We want to rubber stamp this spending bill, NO conditions or restrictions on how 'so-n-so' spends the money or the bombs!" "Off with their heads. We refuse to think about it."
Re : those 15 weeks beginning February 22, 1946, when the voters returned LBJ to office ? LBJ won in a landslide vs. AuH20 on November 3, 1964 .
(They said if I voted for Goldwater, there would be 500,000 troops in Vietnam." A mordant joke from that era.)
February 22, 1946 was when George Kennan sent that 'Long Telegram," https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Article according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/February_1946#:~:text=February%2022%2C%201946%20(Friday),-%22Long%20Telegram%22%20author&text=%22The%20Long%20Telegram%22%20was%20sent,message%20sent%20to%20that%20time. .
The sudden Boomer influx of more selective service registrants meant there were two few military assignments to go around. Color me cynical.