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Try and be at least a little balanced. A far better use of time would be to point out the breakdown in the system on BOTH sides and the need for cooperation and a complete overhaul. The more time we spend pissing on each others shoes the longer the system remains in this state of disarray.

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Nov 6, 2022Liked by Joe Mayall

Can we maybe not “both sides” fascism, please?

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While both sides are in need of a complete overhaul, only one of them is Fascist. Even though I have many issues with the DNC, I'm not going to whitewash the Republicans' dangerous ideology.

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And the other it could be argued is led by a guy with dementia. Name calling and saying this side is this and that side is that get us absolutely nowhere

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Biden's cognitive ability is irrelevant to whether or not Republicans are Fascist. This ideology led to the most heinous crime in modern humanity. It should be called out, condemned, and actively combatted, not whitewashed for the sake of "civility."

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Your just proving my point. I'm not going to argue minutiae with you. Two wings one bird. Each side plays off the other, only cooperation can end that.

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I'm curious. When do you think Republicans became fascist? You said that some of this predates Trump. To be honest, I've never heard anyone call Republicans fascist until about 4 months ago, when it became really popular. I disagree that they hate higher education. They hate the ideology that sometimes comes with it.

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Good question! I would say the party went from having Fascist tendencies to unapologetic fascism leading up to the 2018 midterms. Prior to that there had been fascist members (John Boehner calling Steve King a Nazi), but it wasn’t until the party embraced trump in 2018 that I’d call them a Fascist party

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Interesting. So in your opinion, is the entire party now fascist, or is it that a few key people have taken on fascist attributes? In other words, if someone votes locally for a Republican judge or city councilman, are you suggesting that person is in effect voting for fascism?

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Based on the above analysis (and more in coming weeks), I think one must call the core of the National Republican party as Fascist.

Now, I'm sure there will be candidates (more likely on local levels) who are Paul Ryan-style Republicans, but as a whole I think its a Fascist party.

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Point 2,3,4 also, unfortunately, fit identitarian progressivism.

Rejection of modernity (postmodernism, emotionalism).

Action for sake of action (we need to abolish xxx system. But replace with what? There’s not much counterfactual thinking)

Difference is not acceptable (cancel culture)

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I disagree.

Eco's "action for action's sake" is baked in with his second part of the characteristic, "thinking as emasculation." Predominantly, this is understood to be an attack on the institutions of academia. I don't think this can fit even the most identity-focused parts of the left, which have always found a home in universities.

And #4 isn't "disagreement is unacceptable," but "disagreement is treason." We can discuss the ways in which progressive circles engage in group think (I think its overstated, but there certainly is an element of it), I've never seen anyone claim something like: "disagreeing on marriage equality is treason."

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Ok I see. Your objections make sense. I wasn’t familiar with Eco’s verbatim definitions

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No worries! Yea, I'm trying to stick to Eco's definitions as they provide a somewhat consensus "measurement' of Fascism, as opposed to going with how someone//party makes me "feel."

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